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The Design Of Business | The Business of Design
The Design of Business | The Business of Design explores how design shapes, and is shaped by, the world around us. Hosted by Ellen McGirt, the podcast features conversations with visionary leaders from a wide range of industries, from architecture and technology to journalism and retail. Together, t...
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On Location at the Aspen Institute Part 2: Redesigning Leadership
We’re back with part 2 of our peek behind the curtain of the 2025 Aspen Business & Society Summit. And this time we are asking the big question. In a...

On Location at the Aspen Institute Part 1: Diving Into Disruption
Every summer, the Aspen Institute’s Business and Society Program’s annual summit gathers 200+ leaders from the worlds of business, science, government...
Special Episode: Ellen McGirt Opens the Curiosity Playbook on Say More with Tulaine Montgomery
Instead of our usual episode, we're excited to share a podcast we think you'll love: Say More with Tulaine Montgomery. In her podcast, Tulaine speaks...
S12E9: The Risks of Retreating from DEI with Catalyst’s Alix Pollack & Redesigning Design Thinking with Doug Powell
In a time where it's hard to feel hopeful, a new study has left leaders who value DEI aflutter with tentative optimism. It’s called The Risk of Retrea...
S12E8: Candace Parker & Michael C. Bush on Purpose, Leadership and Meeting the Moment
In this episode of DB|BD, you’re in for a two for one– or in this case, a double double.
First up, host Ellen McGirt sits down with Michael C. B...
S12E7: Compassionate Design, Career Advice and Leaving 18F with Designer Ethan Marcotte
Ethan Marcotte is a web designer who may be best known for coining the term “responsive design” in 2010 – which turned out to be a prescient manifesto...
S12E6: Love Letter to a Garden and 20 years of Design Matters with Debbie Millman
Debbie Millman is a shapeshifting creative who does a little bit of just about everything. She is a writer, designer, educator, artist, brand consulta...
S12E5: Redesigning the Spice Trade: Talking Turmeric and Tariffs with Diaspora Co.’s Sana Javeri Kadri
Sana Javeri Kadri is the founder of Diaspora Co., a single origin spice company that is revolutionizing the 500 year old $5 billion spice industry. Th...
S12E4: Making Space with Jon M. Chu
Jon M. Chu is a director, producer and screenwriter. Along with both parts of the Wicked movie adaptation, he directed Crazy Rich Asians, Step Up 2 an...
S12E3: The New Era of Design Leadership with Tony Bynum
Tony Bynum is bilingual. He can speak the language of both business and design, a skill that makes him a unique leader in our industry.
Tony is...
S12E2: How a "Mastercard for Pigs" is Transforming Global Farming with Tara Nathan
Tara Nathan is the EVP of Digital Solutions for Development at Mastercard and the founder of Mastercard’s Community Pass- a digital infrastructure tha...
S12E1: The Future of Cities is Climate Adaptive with Michael Eliason
Welcome to the 12th season of DB|BD. This season we are Designing for the Unknown.
Michael Eliason of Larch Lab is an architect, researcher, wr...
S11E10: Activism in AI with Google’s Ovetta Sampson
Ovetta Sampson is the Director of User Experience Machine Learning at Google. In December 2023, Business Insider named Ovetta to their AI 100, a list...
S11E9: What’s Love Got to Do With Business with Jorge Fontanez
Jorge Fontanez is the CEO of B Lab, a non-profit network that believes business can be a force for good. B Lab is best known for certifying B Corps, c...
S11E8: Poetry is Anti Capitalist with Tracy K. Smith
Tracy K. Smith is a Pulitzer prize winning poet, professor and librettist who served as the U.S. Poet Laureate from 2017-2019. She’s published five po...
S11E7: Using Design to Show the World Your Truth with Dionna Dorsey and Production Designer Olivia Peebles
In this episode of DB|BD Ellen McGirt and Jessica Helfand talk with two extraordinary women from two seemingly different corners of the design world:...
S11E6: Why an Inclusive Global Economy is a Redesign Project with Mastercard’s Shamina Singh
Twenty years ago, Shamina Singh took what might seem like an unlikely leap from a decade-long career as a labor and political organizer into an execut...
S11E5: WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert on Talent, Activism, and the Business of Basketball
The WNBA is both the moment and a movement. Approximately 400,000 fans attended WNBA games during the first month of the 2024 season, the highest fir...
S11E4: Richard Buery and Robin Hood Are Building a Coalition to Tackle Poverty in NYC
Richard Buery is the CEO of Robin Hood, New York City’s largest poverty fighting organization. It supports high-impact community organizations and par...
S11E3: The Healthy Materials Lab is Making Housing Healthier for Everyone
In 2015, interior designer Jonsara Ruth and architect Alison Mears received a grant to study the use of building materials in affordable housing. Thi...
S11E2: How Franklin Leonard is using The Black List to Redesign Hollywood
Franklin Leonard is the founder and CEO of The Black List, a platform that nurtures emerging screenwriters and gives screenplays that aren’t attached...
S11E1: How to Throw a Party to Change the World with Carrie Mae Weems
Carrie Mae Weems is a multidisciplinary artist. Her body of work stretches over four decades and across many mediums, but with a singular focus— depi...
Feed Drop: Design Observer x Mastercard
While The Design of Business | The Business of Design is between seasons, we wanted to share with you a recent conversation we think you will find val...
S10E12: Decolonizing Design
Decolonizing Design: A Cultural Justice Guidebook is a guidebook to the institutional transformation of design theory and practice by restoring the lo...
S10E11.5: Minisode
Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza discuss past episodes featuring Kunal Kapoor and Dori Tunstall.
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S10E11: Dr. Dori Tunstall
Dr. Elizabeth “Dori” Tunstall is the Dean of the Faculty of Design at Ontario College of Art and Design.
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S10E10: Kunal Kapoor
Kunal Kapoor is chief executive officer of Morningstar.
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S10E9.5: Minisode
Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza discuss past episodes featuring Norman Teague and Kim Erwin.
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S10E9: Kim Erwin
Kim Erwin is the Director of the Equitable Healthcare Lab and Associate Professor of Practice at IIT Institute of Design.
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S10E8: Norman Teague
Norman Teague is a designer and community builder who specializes in custom furniture design.
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S10E7.5: Minisode
In this month’s minisode Kaleena and Omari take a listen to past episodes featuring Richard Ting and Marcia Lausen.
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S10E7: Marcia Lausen
Marcia Lausen is Director of the UIC School of Design and founder of the Chicago office of Studio/lab.
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S10E6: Richard Ting
Richard Ting is the Vice President of Design for Revenue at Twitter.
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S10E5.5: Minisode
Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza discuss past episodes featuring Perrin Drumm, and Annie Atkins.
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S10E5: Annie Atkins
Annie Atkins is a graphic props designer for film and television.
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S10E4: Perrin Drumm
Perrin Drumm is a writer, editor, and head of publishing at A24.
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FEED DROP: The Futures Archive
The Design of Business | The Business of Design is taking a mid season hiatus, but new episodes will be dropping in September. In the meantime, we wan...
S10E3.5: Minisode
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari unpack the idea of branding, being branded, and choosing your own brand.
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S10E3: Vernon Lockhart
Vernon Lockhart is the Executive Director of Project Osmosis, a Chicago based design education and mentoring initiative.
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S10E2.5: Minisode
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari discuss design emancipation, risk and reward, and a flightless parrot.
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